On the Saturday before Easter - or as some would insist, on the eve of Easter, the liturgical calendar beginning days at night - a previously Protestant friend was confirmed in the Roman church. I note this merely as background; as explanation or perhaps the provocation of the following. In itself the circumstance was (for me) hardly unique: I could likely have said the same thing for any of the past five or six years, with regard to the Roman or Orthodox churches, though matching particular names to particular years is more than I can do now.
My own opinion of the Roman church I have probably stated before in this space: however, I will restate it briefly. While possessing a certain superficial historicity, the Roman Catholic church is wracked by un-Scriptural doctrines and practices. Any argument which would convince me to join the Roman church would have to either convince me of the validity of the pope's authority (if he has that authority, I am no one to argue doctrine, certainly not from outside "the Church"), or present a sufficient apology for the Roman church's doctrine from Scripture, or represent the conclusion a true reformation within that church.
Yet the point of this post is not to debate Roman views. If demand requires, I will do so - elsewhere or at another time. (As for the Orthodox: my knowledge is less, but the second and third criteria would also apply.) No, this is more a record of self-reflection. I am Reformed in my own theology, and attend generally churches both presbyterian and Reformed - though I am not a particularly convinced presbyterian. I spent several months last year attending and studying at a Lutheran church - on invitation - due mainly to this lack of conviction, with additional impetus provided by a growing concern over the general practice regarding the Lord's Supper among Reformed churches: which is to say, in practice if not in confession, we lean too much towards mere symbolism.
The Lutheran experiment foundered, on a double (or perhaps treble) difficulty of its own. The first: the use of the crucifix in worship, to say nothing of bowing, if not actually scraping, to the thing. My greatest distaste for the Roman church I found in abridged form in the Lutheran - though at least there were no parades of and towards likely specious relics. The second: a certain lack of utility - not to say precision - in the Lutheran doctrines of the Church and its governance, at least as presented to me. To be more accurate, the Lutherans seemed to want all of the exclusivity provided by Roman or Orthodox doctrines of Tradition and infallibility (of church-through-pope or council, as may be), while claiming with Luther that "councils have erred" - and presumably must still continue to do so: a most curious stance. Perhaps a more thorough investigation would have clarified matters, but I suppose I lack patience. Also (note my count to three!) the music tends towards the excessively Germanic - and German native rhythms are noticeably different from those which fit English lines. I suppose I should have been grateful that at least the words were English, but would it be too difficult to reset the tunes - as most other Protestant hymnals have done - to suit the different flow of words? This is however a highly technical complaint, and not one which holds that much water in light of the rampant banality, not to say occasional stupidity, of many modern compositions spread widely throughout my own Reformed circles.
Once again, I wander fairly far afield. The crux of the matter, brought home to me this weekend, is that maybe I do not care.
Does this sound strange? Most people who know me know I am Christian; the rest probably assume so correctly. I periodically - as now - discuss matters of the Faith here and elsewhere in public. I can defend my faith, as Peter commanded, both as a Christian generally (all the way to the details of forcing talk of presuppositions) and as to my particular denominational choice (though less certainly here - for example, I have no significant attachment to and only slightly more defense for presbyterianism as currently practiced and taught as a system, Biblical or otherwise, for governing the church) and I do so, when occasion has arisen.
My friend's father remarked - I summarize - that he had been thoroughly impressed, though not a Catholic himself, with the zeal of my friend's friends for Christ. Myself?
Well, I have some knowledge; a certain confidence; assurance - one might suspect self-assurance, I suppose; but not so much any burning energy. I have a certain amount of self-discipline even with regards to my religious devotions; but I do not go out of my way to be conspicuous; rather the opposite. Praying in the closet comes far more naturally to me than taking the pains to make sure my actions will cause others to glorify the Father.
Again, on my own denominational particulars, I accept what I have been taught to accept, but not always with the confidence of complete understanding. Consider the acronymic summary of the Reformed confessions: the TULIP. I rather suspect flaws in some arguments for limited atonement; yet those flaws depend on phrasing. Is it the extent (as some would have it) of the atonement achieved that is limited? This seems to fly flat in the face of Scripture's proclamation of redemption and love for the world. Or is it (as others would say) the application that is (or will be, or has been - tenses melt in the face of eternity) limited? - this much at least seems undeniable in light of the testament the Word bears to the goats and reprobates. And then what is the functional difference? I illustrate: I could produce a similar contrast or dilemma in interpretation for each point, and then go on to consider problems posed by the phrasing of the formal confessions and catechisms. I am tempted to believe that the majority of schisms in the Church over the years have been caused by such too-quibbling confrontations over various parties' attempts to explain the ineffable - but then there are battles that needed to be fought, as well, and who am I to draw the line?
On the other hand, in that I try to stand away from public debate on doubtful points. who is to say I am taking a wrong part? Given my uncertainties, would adding "zeal" do any good? Lewis writes, in various places, that he did not consider himself one to address any difficult points of the faith - even going so far as to avoid writing at all on subjects he had no knowledge of or temptations he had not experienced. For me, the state of affairs is such that I simply have no opinion, or only the most guarded of opinions, on many of a wide range of topics. The Nicene Creed I can defend in detail; an inquisitor refuting the Westminster Confession would find me rather more short-handed in apology. Should I put in the effort to study further - or simply trusting God accept that I am not called as a theologian and put myself under the teaching of those who sit, as it were, in Moses' seat? Or both? The danger to me seems rather to be charging off in approximately the wrong direction - or am I simply too cautious, held back by my own habits and character?
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2012/04/09
2012/02/26
Did Santorum Just Disqualify Himself?
It is being trumpeted by the internet liberals everywhere that Santorum is just confirming his dedication to turning America into a theocracy. Take this:
Here is a newsflash: this should not be surprising to anyone paying attention to Santorum except the ones already determined to shout him down because he is openly religious. Is his position as a Catholic antithetical to everything Kennedy presented himself as, as someone who said faith does not matter? Yes, yes of course. But then, Kennedy was hardly a moral exemplar - do we want to make him our model?
But the article I cited quotes Jefferson, citing him against Santorum as follows:
Further amendments and the flow of history abolished these State establishments or let them gently into the night, but to suggest the Constitution or the Founders were against religious influences in toto is absurd. This is the context Jefferson spoke from: one in which the greatest fear was a religious establishment forbidding other public religious expression. Would they have looked with any greater favor on a "secular establishment" being permitted to dismiss religion from the public square instead? This is what Santorum is protesting against: the movement over the last century to put religion in its place and dismiss its expressions from politics and public functions. What we saw with the Kennedy candidacy, what was then a lingering anti-Catholicism which forced a (badly behaved and mostly nominal) Catholic to all but publicly disavow his faith, we now see as a general anti-religiosity. Are you inclined to doubt this? Consider, Santorum cannot even point this out, state this hypothesis without being quoted out of context and vilified. I see your fears of so-called "theocracy", manufactured without context and with prejudice, and raise you public discrimination (however extra-legal) again religious opinion.
"I don't believe in an America where the separation of church and state are absolute," he told 'This Week' host George Stephanopoulos. "The idea that the church can have no influence or no involvement in the operation of the state is absolutely antithetical to the objectives and vision of our country...to say that people of faith have no role in the public square? You bet that makes me want to throw up."Now Santorum's use, as a Catholic, of "the church" is troubling. It brings to mind images of medieval Roman triumphalism. On the other hand, let's go find the linked ABC transcript and see what the context is. Ah, he continues:
This is the First Amendment. The First Amendment says the free exercise of religion. That means bringing everybody, people of faith and no faith, into the public square. Kennedy for the first time articulated the vision saying, "No, faith is not allowed in the public square. I will keep it separate." [quotes added] Go on and read the speech. "I will have nothing to do with faith. I won't consult with people of faith." [again] It was an absolutist doctrine that was abhorrent at the time of 1960. And I went down to Houston, Texas 50 years almost to the day, and gave a speech and talked about how important it is for everybody to feel welcome in the public square. People of faith, people of no faith, and be able to bring their ideas, to bring their passions into the public square and have it out.Well that's not so bad, is it? I get a say, the Muslim across the parking lot gets a say, the atheist down the road gets a say - sounds pretty much like the American ideal Santorum is defending.
Here is a newsflash: this should not be surprising to anyone paying attention to Santorum except the ones already determined to shout him down because he is openly religious. Is his position as a Catholic antithetical to everything Kennedy presented himself as, as someone who said faith does not matter? Yes, yes of course. But then, Kennedy was hardly a moral exemplar - do we want to make him our model?
But the article I cited quotes Jefferson, citing him against Santorum as follows:
...I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State.A very minimal knowledge of history will be sufficient to dismiss this as a counter-argument. The worry at the time of the Founding was the use of state power to oppress dissenting religions. Certainly a state church - as in England - could provide the excuse. Certainly a "universal" church, as the Roman Catholic was claimed to be over Spain, could provide the incentive. But the drive of the amendment in question was hardly to abolish belief, but to protect it. It is noteworthy that the state churches of the States were in no wise disestablished by the Constitution - merely the case was made that in the new united country, a federal state church was beyond a laughably bad idea. Maryland was Catholic, Massachusetts officially Puritan, Pennsylvania tolerant, New York still Dutch and reformed, or else Anglican, but mainly cosmopolitan, Rhode Island dissenting but free.
Further amendments and the flow of history abolished these State establishments or let them gently into the night, but to suggest the Constitution or the Founders were against religious influences in toto is absurd. This is the context Jefferson spoke from: one in which the greatest fear was a religious establishment forbidding other public religious expression. Would they have looked with any greater favor on a "secular establishment" being permitted to dismiss religion from the public square instead? This is what Santorum is protesting against: the movement over the last century to put religion in its place and dismiss its expressions from politics and public functions. What we saw with the Kennedy candidacy, what was then a lingering anti-Catholicism which forced a (badly behaved and mostly nominal) Catholic to all but publicly disavow his faith, we now see as a general anti-religiosity. Are you inclined to doubt this? Consider, Santorum cannot even point this out, state this hypothesis without being quoted out of context and vilified. I see your fears of so-called "theocracy", manufactured without context and with prejudice, and raise you public discrimination (however extra-legal) again religious opinion.
2011/05/16
On Sorts of Music
Time to christen the new blog!
I drove up with Trent, former dormmate and current roommate, and that was good.
And then on the way back I made one too many snarky comments and we spent three hours (or so) arguing about indie music.
And that was not so good, because we were largely speaking different languages and there was no one to translate.
I have to start with a minor retraction. Given certain tight definitions, it can make some sense to talk about differences between "pop" and "indie" music.
Let me explain. As far as I can tell, most "indie" bands are either:
a) pop music that isn't popular (yet?)
b) worse popular bands - they've not got a record deal because they're actually not very good
c) existing in the weird voodoo land of "alt" or "fusion" music: they're not susceptible to "pop"ism because the band does some
Being charitable, we're going to dismiss b and assume those bands get lumped in as "indie" because other people were being charitable. I'd like to dismiss a as well in this discussion, and assume it gets lumped in because of the technical definition of the word, but I need to digress on pop for a minute in order to do that.
So, pop. In one sense it's actually a meaningful designator - when it means what I call bubblegum music, or "dance music" (give me Blue Danube or My Way any day). There are some regional differences in its exact production and instrumentation varies a little bit from band to band but you can pretty much tell it's pop. Here are some examples: Sweden. Korea. Germany. USA (with a little help from hip-hop). And for good measure, Sweden. And so it goes. (Not, not this.) While I've avoided personal experience like the plague, I understand that our goofy mini-celebrities like Montana (not Joe) and Bieber belong in this genre.
So, I guess if that's the only music being produced today by big labels, then it makes some sense to contrast "actual" indie music - group c, that is - with its dedication to actual music and skill and "Art", to the big-label bands and those that are trying to make it there.
But at the same time, telling me that a band is "indie" tells me not that much about the music they do write. Let's compare for a minute one "indie" band I do know about, Balthrop Alabama, with one Trent really likes (and I insulted, though not for the particular linked song), Nada Surf. Does that count as the same sort of style, or not? I have no real idea if those songs are representative of the respective bands. Then you have a group like Le Tigre, selected at random from a wikipedia list, or Last Shadow Puppets, ditto.
Yes, if you compare these guys to the bubblegum groups I mentioned first, you'll notice a distinct difference in sound. But if you compare them to each other, you can't draw hard lines. And there's clearly a gradation rather than some clear "line in the sand" between pop and indie sound (look at the similarities between Le Tigre and Scooter).
To say nothing of the fact that (at least almost) every song I've posted up in here, pop or indie is based on a 4-count meter, usually with a rock (that is, syncopated), beat, and some combination of guitar/drum/synth.
Which all is basically to say: if you're going to insist on (huge) differences between pop and indie music (to say nothing of fusion, metal, hip-hop, and so forth), stop calling it "classical" music and start talking about Baroque, Classical, Romantic, Impressionist, twelve-tone, Minimalist... okay? Tchaikovsky and Debussy are at least as distinct as Basshunter and Nada Surf.
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